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Tuesday, 16 June 2015

HAMPSTEAD SRA: “SATANIST” - DRIFLOUD” COMMENT, MY DELETED COMMENT, 15 JUNE ’15

From the Hampstead Research site, the post entitled "Satanist", with full comments, emphasising a communication to various government employees from commenter "Drifloud", 15/06/15, making exceptionally valid points:

Comment from Drifloud 15 June ’15:   


  • Just sent this as FEEDBACK, in response to “feedback”from the DPS to a “complaint” to them I never made:
    To Geri Brownrigg, Directorate of Professional Standards, Judge Mrs Anna Pauffley, Detective Constable Alan Rogers 207875, Detective Inspector John Cannon 189067, Commissioner Hogan-Howe, Detective Superintendent Paul Speer, Detective Superintendent M.J. Fernandez and anyone else involved in The Hampstead Child Rape and Murder Case:
    Firstly, Geri Brownrigg of the DPS in reply to your email, June 9th, 2015 (your ref: QU/898/15):
    You did not receive an email “complaint” from me as I have never sent any “complaint” to the DPS. You were CC’d in an email I sent out 22nd May, 2015 as “AN APPEAL FOR ALL POLICEMEN AND POLICEWOMEN EVERYWHERE TO REQUIRE KATY FORSDYKE AND VANESSA FITZPATRICK TO COME FORWARD TO CLEAR THEIR NAMES”
    It was meant to attract the attention of as many genuine policewomen and policemen as possible, as well as any decent human beings working as journalists in the mainstream press. It was posted on the internet in order to bring to the attention of as many people as possible, the corrupt and criminal behaviour of certain members of the police involved in the Hampstead Rape and Murder Case. It was also hoped that Katy Forsdyke and Vanessa Fitzpatrick, two of the accused rapists named and graphically described by the children, would see the sense in coming forward to undergo a medical examination. The DPS were CC’d in my email on the off-chance that there might be some honourable people at the DPS offices, apart from the cleaning staff, who might read this email and see quite clearly the crime committed by DC Alan Rogers 207875 (alan.rogers@met.police.uk ) and DI John Cannon 189067 (john.cannon@met.police.uk ), and START TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Alas, it was intercepted by the DPS Corporate legal team. Of course, corporate lawyers ensconced in the DPS, acting as a block and repel barrier to any members of the public seeking redress in matters of police wrong-doing, were not among the intended target group of this email appeal. Corporate lawyers who continue to try to defend the indefensible like THE RAPE, TORTURE AND MURDER OF CHILDREN, by finding legal excuses in STATUTES and ACTS legislated by corporate lawyers – which they then pass off as LAW. A set-up contrived to protect the crimes of prominent establishment figures (and their minions), and used to avoid prosecuting these crimes and criminals, to avoid investigating these crimes and to avoid investigating those who ignore their duty to investigate these crimes. The DPS, and it seems the IPCC, are in effect, merely a “legal” protective shield used by the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police and Police Chiefs across the land, who automatically pass complaints and reports of crimes committed by the police, or crimes deliberately NOT investigated, on to you for you to legalise with legalese, and thereby neutralise any threat of upholding charges of culpability against the police involved.
    But maybe it’s too harsh to tar you all with the same brush, and there are some among you who are willing to actually abide by what is lawful instead of always trying to ENACT what is legal? If there are, then this is for YOUR information. It’s deliberately repetitive, but continually repeating the FACTS sometimes gets through to those who are most resistant to the FACTS.
    It is an indisputable FACT that medical examinations of the adults who gabriel and alisa named as their attackers, in order to check for distinguishing genital marks which the children had described in minute detail, would have CONCLUSIVELY PROVED if the children were telling the truth or not. It’s also an indisputable FACT that gabriel and alisa passed the burden of proof to the accused when they FULLY SUPPORTED THEIR ASSERTIONS of being raped, by providing those detailed descriptions of distinguishing marks on and around the genitals of their NAMED attackers. It has fallen to the ACCUSED to prove they DID NOT RAPE gabriel and alisa, and THE ONLY WAY they can do that is uncover their genitals for inspection by UNBIASED doctors/observers.
    Mrs Anna Pauffley SAYS “with complete conviction that none of the allegations (of child rape, murder and torture) are true” (Pauffley judgement, para.16) – but she provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF of this. However, lawfully required medicals of the accused + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children, raped them or not. But Pauffley makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of the “distinguishing marks” recordings. DS Paul Speer of Colindale Police Station ( paul.j.speer@met.police.uk ) SAYS that there is “absolutely no foundation to the allegations made by the children”, but provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF. Speer simply repeats the unfounded CLAIMS made by Mrs Pauffley, and writes: “HHJ Pauffley conducted a thorough fact finding hearing into all the circumstances, the details of this hearing are available on the internet.” This is pure hearsay and proves nothing. However, lawfully required medicals + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children, raped them or not. But Speer makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of the “distinguishing marks” recordings. The mainstream media trumpets the unfounded claims made by Pauffley: “Neither child has been sexually abused by any of the following – Ricky Dearman, teachers at Christchurch Primary School Hampstead, the parents of students at that school, the priest at the adjacent church, teachers at any of the Hampstead or Highgate schools, members of the Metropolitan Police, social workers employed by the London Borough of Camden, officers of Cafcass or anyone else mentioned by Ms Draper or Mr Christie.”( Pauffley judgement para. 165. Please note: the CHILDREN mentioned all these people – ella and abraham recorded these names the children mentioned). But the press provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF. However, lawfully required medicals + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children, raped them or not. But the press makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of “the distinguishing marks” recordings. The BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire “interviews” Ricky Dearman to “prove” the children were coached by their mother and abraham, and fabricated their assertions. But it is just a film of two people talking, and doesn’t provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF of anything – it is just a show. However, lawfully required medicals + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children raped them or not. But the interview makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of the “distinguishing marks” recordings. The Hampstead Child Rape and Murder police investigation was closed on 22nd September, 2014 by DI John Cannon 189067 (john.cannon@met.police.uk ), who was leading the investigation. He makes the comment: “Apparently he (abraham) is coaching disclosures and the children are creating a bigger and bigger lie.”(page 76, para. 1 CRIS report). But Cannon provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF that the children are lying and have been coached. And Cannon makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of the “distinguishing marks” recordings WHEN NO-CRIMING THE CASE, 22nd September, 2014. However, he DOES mention that the “distinguishing marks” recordings were taken into Police storage at a “LOCATION TO BE IDENTIFIED” on the very first day of the investigation, 5th September, 2014 (page 10, para. 2. CRIS report). It is worth noting that the location was not identified throughout the investigation, nor were those recordings seen by anyone else in the police investigating team. He also reveals that he has knowledge of the content of those recordings from an email he received from child psychiatrist Dr Sara Kundu, September 9th 2014, alerting him to the children’s, “detailed description of unusual features of the alleged perpetrators’ genital regions” ( page 31, para 2. CRIS report). Yet he does not, at any time, require medical examinations of the accused. However, medical examinations + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children raped them or not. DC Steve Martin 219414 (steve.martin@met.police.uk ) claims the children “fabricated” their assertions, due to what the children said in an inconclusive “retraction” interview. Martin provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF the children fabricated their assertions, and that they had been coached. DC Martin DOES state: “A video of Abraham and the mother “helping” the children recall their account has been obtained and although I have not seen this myself as the video is unable to play on the majority of the MPS systems as the video is on a more modern player it has been viewed by DS M.J. Fernandez. He has informed me that the style of questioning towards the children is very loaded and it appears that a level of coaching has been given to the children to provide certain answers, therefore strongly damaging the validity of the children’s accounts.” (page 71, para. 5 of CRIS report). DC Martin’s opinion of this video, based on hearsay, is actually a very accurate description of the so-called “retraction” interviews DC Martin himself conducted with the children, September 17th, 2014. Both DC Martin and DS M.J. Fernandez 205219 make no mention of lawfully required medicals, which together with the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children raped them or not. DC Alan Rogers 207875 ( alan.rogers@met.police.uk ) “seized” the “distinguishing marks” recordings on the very first day of the Hampstead Child Rape and Murder Case, 5th September, 2014, listened to the recording and wrote in his report: “the children will explain explicit body parts and go into detail in relation to these body parts and describe them”(para. 2 page 7 CRIS report). DC Rogers then, along with DI Cannon, that SAME DAY, arranged for these highly incriminating “distinguishing marks” recordings to be stored in an unidentified Police property somewhere in Chingford, concealing them from the other investigators for the duration of the entire investigation. They criminally concealed this evidence instead of arranging medical examinations of the adults named and intimately identified by the children in the recordings – medicals which would have provided CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether those adults raped the children or not.
    I could go on like this, but I think it’s sufficient to make the point: Policemen DI John Cannon 189067, DC Alan Rogers 207875, DS MJ Fernandez, DC Steve Martin, DS Paul Speer, Judge Mrs Pauffley, the BBC, the mainstream press all SAY that the adults the children named and intimately described as their brutal paedo-sadistic rapists, are not brutal paedo-sadistic rapists – yet they offer NO CONCLUSIVE PROOF they are not rapists. Lawfully required medicals of the accused + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings would provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children raped them or not. But there is not even a suggestion of medical examinations from the police, judge, BBC or the press. And the “distinguishing marks” recordings, when mentioned at all, are only considered in the context of something to be immediately and UNLAWFULLY concealed in an unidentified location.
    The unlawful concealment of the “distinguishing marks” recordings combined with the avoidance of medical examinations of the accused – the two things, which if combined, would PROVE CONCLUSIVELY whether those adults named by the children had raped them, SHOWS the police did not even wish to consider these two options. The police’s, Pauffley’s, the BBC’s and the mainstream press’s only concern was to PROCLAIM those adults did not rape the children, and that the children had made the whole thing up, all the while completely avoiding the ONLY POSSIBILITY OF PROVING such a proclamation. They didn’t want to consider medical examinations which would prove CONCLUSIVELY whether the children were telling the truth or not, because they KNEW the results would NOT support their claim that the children were lying. If they COULD prove those adults did not rape the children – because the medical examinations of those adults’ genitals did not corroborate the children’s detailed descriptions of their distinguishing genital marks, they WOULD have done so. BUT THEY COULD NOT PROVE THIS. Why? Because medical examinations would have proved that the ACCUSED RAPISTS POSSESSED EXACTLY THE DISTINGUISHING GENITAL MARKS THE CHILDREN DESCRIBED. The children are TELLING THE TRUTH and certain people in the Metropolitan police, Judge Pauffley, the BBC and the mainstream press ARE LYING.
    There you are: long-winded, repetitive, but it seems, absolutely necessary in order to get through to anyone persisting in their belief that the official story peddled by The Authorities is true.
    The big question is WHY are The Authorities peddling their lie? Well, that investigation is still ongoing…
    I, as a conscious living being, known as Drifloud, wish to assert, as a matter of public record, that gabriel and alisa have BRAVELY TOLD THE TRUTH about their unspeakable and brutal rape at the hands of those they named and intimately identified as their attackers. I accuse, Detective Inspector John Cannon 189067 and Detective Constable Alan Rogers 207875 and High Court Judge Anna Pauffley of the CRIME of committing, and conspiring to commit FRAUD, by concealing crucial identifying evidence in a rape and murder investigation and court hearing, and avoiding their duty to lawfully require medical examinations of the named accused, which would have conclusively proved the childrens’ assertions. And that Judge Mrs Anna Pauffley, DC Alan Rogers, and DI John Cannon did FALSELY accuse young gabriel and alisa of fabricating their accounts of being brutally raped by ALL those adults they named and intimately identified as their attackers. I also assert that those adults named and intimately identified by gabriel and alisa: Katy Forsdyke, Vanessa Fitzpatrick, Nina Marden, Lewis Hollings, Father Paul Conrad, Kate Unwin, David Polidano, Zarina Shail, Jonathan Gordge, Janet Stokes, Alice Singleton, Tom Burnett, to name a few, DID IN FACT brutally and sadistically rape them in the manner gabriel and alisa have stated. I insist that these adults are apprehended as quickly as possible. All the recipients of this email are witnesses to the above assertions.
    It is quite clear that you Mrs Anna Pauffley, and you DI John Cannon 189067 and you DC Alan Rogers 207875 are not fit to hold public office, and cannot remain in positions of public trust. I first reported your crime of FRAUD, 77 days ago, to Mr Hogan-Howe, and he has wasted quite a lot of that time passing my “Witness Statement Reporting the Very Serious Crime of Fraud”(sent , 31st March, 2015) to the legal team at DPS for them to convert into a legal “complaint”, so they could attempt to “legally” dismiss it. Still, you really have had enough time to explain your actions to the public, and STAND DOWN. A fortnight, fifteen days from today, June 15th, 2015, is adequate time to lawfully respond to this charge of FRAUD, and to peacefully stand down. No lawful response from you by June 30th 2015, will be deemed tacit admission of culpability, and that the charge of FRAUD against you is proven.
    To anyone in public office NOT involved in this criminal cover-up: Continuing to hold gabriel and alisa is UNLAWFUL and completely without the authority and consent of all the good and honest people of this land. The public require you to safely return them to their mother ella, via the children’s grandparents if need be, without delay. The recent attempt to blackmail their grandparents into signing a document agreeing to accept Pauffley’s findings as valid, as a condition for visiting their grandchildren, cannot leave anyone in any doubt now as to the level these desperadoes will sink, and to what an absolute sham the Pauffley judgement really is.
    I hold only to that which is lawful, and do not consent to the transmutation of any living beings I have mentioned (including myself) to that of “legal person” status, or to any legal interpretation of my words whatsoever. All words and combinations of words used by me carry solely the meaning I intend them to convey, which is to tell the truth to the best of my ability in order to report the crime of fraud detailed above, and to bring about an end to the brutalisation, torture, rape and murder of innocents – as I know such things to be contrary to the laws of humanity.
    from one of the people and a conscious living being,
    Drifloud 15th June, 2015″


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Here, below, is the full post from the hampsteadresearch site, with full comments, from the post entitled “Satanists”, beginning with my comment that was deleted until I replaced it. Under that, the full comments. Suffice to say I will not support sites that support or promote any form of satanism, or characters who are members of the cult who worship a demon which, in my opinion, seemed to go against what I perceived to be the very spirit of this site, seeing as the cult of "satanism" seems to be at the very root of the abject persecution the perfectly decent family I thought all were trying to support. . Therefore this site is out of bounds for myself.
Also it is odd the site owner has confusion when the commenter "JusticeAll" asks me the question using a shortened version of my name "butlin" when the site owner has used the term "butlin" time and time again in emails to myself. 


My comment that was deleted until replaced:


“This comment was deleted  from this post.
Answering questions about my eating habits I find unneccassary and futile. But to the person asking the question id state I haven’t eaten meat for over 20 years – since 1984. Is that good enough for you?
  • Anyway, I have now left this site, as others have I know who used to support it – [one who has left stated privately “the site has spiraled into a gossip column”] – one reason being I feel the constant promotion, eg. the “radio show interview” with that character “Fraize” put on here, that is in this site’s archives – and the other open bias towards a self-confessed  satanist has nothing to do with trying to get justice for this family. Period.
     Ive asked before what has all the attention to this character got to do with trying to get justice for the family but never received a straight answer.
    I do seriously believe this site owners former involvement with the occult, or call it what you want, in whichever guise in the past, has coloured/is colouring the publicizing of this character who calls himself “Rev. Fraize” – a self-confessed satanist. One only has to look back into this sites archives to see the misplaced attention to this character – he’s called “normal”, a “nice satanist”, and weve even been told he’s  “harmed none” [how the heck can the author of that comment know that?], along with all the rest of it – as if to make out the characters leanings are perfectly acceptable and “everyday”. Weaker spirits might be brainwashed by this tripe.
    And if this pro-satanism happened once, it could happen again, and I do not want to be here if it does.
    I put it to everyone that it is/was satanists actions that are the reasons for this very site being here in the 1st place!
    Having left I would state that in my opinion certain supporters input to trying to get justice for this family is invaluable and I hope never ceases”

    Satanists


    It amazes me that people who leave comments about Satanists have such strong viewpoints.
    One of HR’s most enthusiastic and valued regulars is a Christian evangelist.
    Good on him/her for committing to that religion.
    And working tirelessly for what s/he believes is right.
    And s/he has not been leaving comments slagging off Satanists.
    I imagine that she is not socialising with these people
    But she is clever enough to work out what is going on
    And polite enough not to try and hijack issues with her “personal stuff”
    Because she wants to help get the children back!
    And one of our top tunnelers is an atheist.
    And good on him/her.
    So what?
    S/he is the same – working away in the background trying to get the children back.
    I have already explained that I, Jacqui, am not religious. I am not an atheist or an agnostic – because to me, God exists.
    But why should you care what I believe?
    And how many times do I have to say that this blog is not about religion?
    But legal definitions might be important to this case.
    A case of trying to get the children back.
    And they are important to our society as a whole.
    Not least because innocent people on Norwich might be going to prison.
    And if that means that we have to discuss Satanism like adults – then so be it.
    I hear muttering in the Comments like “I don’t know what this blog is about.”
    And have to wonder whether I have ever made myself clear.
    The fact is that some Satanists, whether you like it or not, do not murder and abuse babies.
    And, to be honest, I heard no hatred from Rev Fraize (although he was a little enthusiastic about Marduk worshippers and the Vatican) –
    Not half as much hatred as I see coming from some, just some – and I should say the minority – of HR’s Christians.

15 thoughts on “Satanists”

N.B.: This 1st comment from myself was written basically in response to the site owners statements about "hate" and "hatred" of satanists at the beginning of the post - accusing certain commenters of "hate" and "hatred" of these dark characters.  Those words and the sentences they were in were deleted from this post after I made my 1st comment - thus making my comment superfluous and nonsensical.

  1. Hatred? that’s your word – I have never used the word hate – nor have I seen others use that word.
    And I personally don’t hate anyone or anything. Talk about putting words in others mouths.
    But I do believe a person should lie on his/her bed if he/she has made it – especially those who confess to worshipping demons.
    I don’t believe its possible to be a “nice s atanist” or be a s atanist without hurting someone or something [an animal for example].
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  2. Just sent this as FEEDBACK, in response to “feedback”from the DPS to a “complaint” to them I never made:
    To Geri Brownrigg, Directorate of Professional Standards, Judge Mrs Anna Pauffley, Detective Constable Alan Rogers 207875, Detective Inspector John Cannon 189067, Commissioner Hogan-Howe, Detective Superintendent Paul Speer, Detective Superintendent M.J. Fernandez and anyone else involved in The Hampstead Child Rape and Murder Case:
    Firstly, Geri Brownrigg of the DPS in reply to your email, June 9th, 2015 (your ref: QU/898/15):
    You did not receive an email “complaint” from me as I have never sent any “complaint” to the DPS. You were CC’d in an email I sent out 22nd May, 2015 as “AN APPEAL FOR ALL POLICEMEN AND POLICEWOMEN EVERYWHERE TO REQUIRE KATY FORSDYKE AND VANESSA FITZPATRICK TO COME FORWARD TO CLEAR THEIR NAMES”
    It was meant to attract the attention of as many genuine policewomen and policemen as possible, as well as any decent human beings working as journalists in the mainstream press. It was posted on the internet in order to bring to the attention of as many people as possible, the corrupt and criminal behaviour of certain members of the police involved in the Hampstead Rape and Murder Case. It was also hoped that Katy Forsdyke and Vanessa Fitzpatrick, two of the accused rapists named and graphically described by the children, would see the sense in coming forward to undergo a medical examination. The DPS were CC’d in my email on the off-chance that there might be some honourable people at the DPS offices, apart from the cleaning staff, who might read this email and see quite clearly the crime committed by DC Alan Rogers 207875 (alan.rogers@met.police.uk ) and DI John Cannon 189067 (john.cannon@met.police.uk ), and START TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Alas, it was intercepted by the DPS Corporate legal team. Of course, corporate lawyers ensconced in the DPS, acting as a block and repel barrier to any members of the public seeking redress in matters of police wrong-doing, were not among the intended target group of this email appeal. Corporate lawyers who continue to try to defend the indefensible like THE RAPE, TORTURE AND MURDER OF CHILDREN, by finding legal excuses in STATUTES and ACTS legislated by corporate lawyers – which they then pass off as LAW. A set-up contrived to protect the crimes of prominent establishment figures (and their minions), and used to avoid prosecuting these crimes and criminals, to avoid investigating these crimes and to avoid investigating those who ignore their duty to investigate these crimes. The DPS, and it seems the IPCC, are in effect, merely a “legal” protective shield used by the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police and Police Chiefs across the land, who automatically pass complaints and reports of crimes committed by the police, or crimes deliberately NOT investigated, on to you for you to legalise with legalese, and thereby neutralise any threat of upholding charges of culpability against the police involved.
    But maybe it’s too harsh to tar you all with the same brush, and there are some among you who are willing to actually abide by what is lawful instead of always trying to ENACT what is legal? If there are, then this is for YOUR information. It’s deliberately repetitive, but continually repeating the FACTS sometimes gets through to those who are most resistant to the FACTS.
    It is an indisputable FACT that medical examinations of the adults who gabriel and alisa named as their attackers, in order to check for distinguishing genital marks which the children had described in minute detail, would have CONCLUSIVELY PROVED if the children were telling the truth or not. It’s also an indisputable FACT that gabriel and alisa passed the burden of proof to the accused when they FULLY SUPPORTED THEIR ASSERTIONS of being raped, by providing those detailed descriptions of distinguishing marks on and around the genitals of their NAMED attackers. It has fallen to the ACCUSED to prove they DID NOT RAPE gabriel and alisa, and THE ONLY WAY they can do that is uncover their genitals for inspection by UNBIASED doctors/observers.
    Mrs Anna Pauffley SAYS “with complete conviction that none of the allegations (of child rape, murder and torture) are true” (Pauffley judgement, para.16) – but she provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF of this. However, lawfully required medicals of the accused + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children, raped them or not. But Pauffley makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of the “distinguishing marks” recordings. DS Paul Speer of Colindale Police Station ( paul.j.speer@met.police.uk ) SAYS that there is “absolutely no foundation to the allegations made by the children”, but provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF. Speer simply repeats the unfounded CLAIMS made by Mrs Pauffley, and writes: “HHJ Pauffley conducted a thorough fact finding hearing into all the circumstances, the details of this hearing are available on the internet.” This is pure hearsay and proves nothing. However, lawfully required medicals + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children, raped them or not. But Speer makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of the “distinguishing marks” recordings. The mainstream media trumpets the unfounded claims made by Pauffley: “Neither child has been sexually abused by any of the following – Ricky Dearman, teachers at Christchurch Primary School Hampstead, the parents of students at that school, the priest at the adjacent church, teachers at any of the Hampstead or Highgate schools, members of the Metropolitan Police, social workers employed by the London Borough of Camden, officers of Cafcass or anyone else mentioned by Ms Draper or Mr Christie.”( Pauffley judgement para. 165. Please note: the CHILDREN mentioned all these people – ella and abraham recorded these names the children mentioned). But the press provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF. However, lawfully required medicals + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children, raped them or not. But the press makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of “the distinguishing marks” recordings. The BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire “interviews” Ricky Dearman to “prove” the children were coached by their mother and abraham, and fabricated their assertions. But it is just a film of two people talking, and doesn’t provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF of anything – it is just a show. However, lawfully required medicals + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children raped them or not. But the interview makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of the “distinguishing marks” recordings. The Hampstead Child Rape and Murder police investigation was closed on 22nd September, 2014 by DI John Cannon 189067 (john.cannon@met.police.uk ), who was leading the investigation. He makes the comment: “Apparently he (abraham) is coaching disclosures and the children are creating a bigger and bigger lie.”(page 76, para. 1 CRIS report). But Cannon provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF that the children are lying and have been coached. And Cannon makes no mention of lawfully required medicals, and no mention of the “distinguishing marks” recordings WHEN NO-CRIMING THE CASE, 22nd September, 2014. However, he DOES mention that the “distinguishing marks” recordings were taken into Police storage at a “LOCATION TO BE IDENTIFIED” on the very first day of the investigation, 5th September, 2014 (page 10, para. 2. CRIS report). It is worth noting that the location was not identified throughout the investigation, nor were those recordings seen by anyone else in the police investigating team. He also reveals that he has knowledge of the content of those recordings from an email he received from child psychiatrist Dr Sara Kundu, September 9th 2014, alerting him to the children’s, “detailed description of unusual features of the alleged perpetrators’ genital regions” ( page 31, para 2. CRIS report). Yet he does not, at any time, require medical examinations of the accused. However, medical examinations + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children raped them or not. DC Steve Martin 219414 (steve.martin@met.police.uk ) claims the children “fabricated” their assertions, due to what the children said in an inconclusive “retraction” interview. Martin provides no CONCLUSIVE PROOF the children fabricated their assertions, and that they had been coached. DC Martin DOES state: “A video of Abraham and the mother “helping” the children recall their account has been obtained and although I have not seen this myself as the video is unable to play on the majority of the MPS systems as the video is on a more modern player it has been viewed by DS M.J. Fernandez. He has informed me that the style of questioning towards the children is very loaded and it appears that a level of coaching has been given to the children to provide certain answers, therefore strongly damaging the validity of the children’s accounts.” (page 71, para. 5 of CRIS report). DC Martin’s opinion of this video, based on hearsay, is actually a very accurate description of the so-called “retraction” interviews DC Martin himself conducted with the children, September 17th, 2014. Both DC Martin and DS M.J. Fernandez 205219 make no mention of lawfully required medicals, which together with the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings can provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children raped them or not. DC Alan Rogers 207875 ( alan.rogers@met.police.uk ) “seized” the “distinguishing marks” recordings on the very first day of the Hampstead Child Rape and Murder Case, 5th September, 2014, listened to the recording and wrote in his report: “the children will explain explicit body parts and go into detail in relation to these body parts and describe them”(para. 2 page 7 CRIS report). DC Rogers then, along with DI Cannon, that SAME DAY, arranged for these highly incriminating “distinguishing marks” recordings to be stored in an unidentified Police property somewhere in Chingford, concealing them from the other investigators for the duration of the entire investigation. They criminally concealed this evidence instead of arranging medical examinations of the adults named and intimately identified by the children in the recordings – medicals which would have provided CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether those adults raped the children or not.
    I could go on like this, but I think it’s sufficient to make the point: Policemen DI John Cannon 189067, DC Alan Rogers 207875, DS MJ Fernandez, DC Steve Martin, DS Paul Speer, Judge Mrs Pauffley, the BBC, the mainstream press all SAY that the adults the children named and intimately described as their brutal paedo-sadistic rapists, are not brutal paedo-sadistic rapists – yet they offer NO CONCLUSIVE PROOF they are not rapists. Lawfully required medicals of the accused + the children’s testimony on the “distinguishing marks” recordings would provide CONCLUSIVE PROOF whether the adults named by the children raped them or not. But there is not even a suggestion of medical examinations from the police, judge, BBC or the press. And the “distinguishing marks” recordings, when mentioned at all, are only considered in the context of something to be immediately and UNLAWFULLY concealed in an unidentified location.
    The unlawful concealment of the “distinguishing marks” recordings combined with the avoidance of medical examinations of the accused – the two things, which if combined, would PROVE CONCLUSIVELY whether those adults named by the children had raped them, SHOWS the police did not even wish to consider these two options. The police’s, Pauffley’s, the BBC’s and the mainstream press’s only concern was to PROCLAIM those adults did not rape the children, and that the children had made the whole thing up, all the while completely avoiding the ONLY POSSIBILITY OF PROVING such a proclamation. They didn’t want to consider medical examinations which would prove CONCLUSIVELY whether the children were telling the truth or not, because they KNEW the results would NOT support their claim that the children were lying. If they COULD prove those adults did not rape the children – because the medical examinations of those adults’ genitals did not corroborate the children’s detailed descriptions of their distinguishing genital marks, they WOULD have done so. BUT THEY COULD NOT PROVE THIS. Why? Because medical examinations would have proved that the ACCUSED RAPISTS POSSESSED EXACTLY THE DISTINGUISHING GENITAL MARKS THE CHILDREN DESCRIBED. The children are TELLING THE TRUTH and certain people in the Metropolitan police, Judge Pauffley, the BBC and the mainstream press ARE LYING.
    There you are: long-winded, repetitive, but it seems, absolutely necessary in order to get through to anyone persisting in their belief that the official story peddled by The Authorities is true.
    The big question is WHY are The Authorities peddling their lie? Well, that investigation is still ongoing…
    I, as a conscious living being, known as Drifloud, wish to assert, as a matter of public record, that gabriel and alisa have BRAVELY TOLD THE TRUTH about their unspeakable and brutal rape at the hands of those they named and intimately identified as their attackers. I accuse, Detective Inspector John Cannon 189067 and Detective Constable Alan Rogers 207875 and High Court Judge Anna Pauffley of the CRIME of committing, and conspiring to commit FRAUD, by concealing crucial identifying evidence in a rape and murder investigation and court hearing, and avoiding their duty to lawfully require medical examinations of the named accused, which would have conclusively proved the childrens’ assertions. And that Judge Mrs Anna Pauffley, DC Alan Rogers, and DI John Cannon did FALSELY accuse young gabriel and alisa of fabricating their accounts of being brutally raped by ALL those adults they named and intimately identified as their attackers. I also assert that those adults named and intimately identified by gabriel and alisa: Katy Forsdyke, Vanessa Fitzpatrick, Nina Marden, Lewis Hollings, Father Paul Conrad, Kate Unwin, David Polidano, Zarina Shail, Jonathan Gordge, Janet Stokes, Alice Singleton, Tom Burnett, to name a few, DID IN FACT brutally and sadistically rape them in the manner gabriel and alisa have stated. I insist that these adults are apprehended as quickly as possible. All the recipients of this email are witnesses to the above assertions.
    It is quite clear that you Mrs Anna Pauffley, and you DI John Cannon 189067 and you DC Alan Rogers 207875 are not fit to hold public office, and cannot remain in positions of public trust. I first reported your crime of FRAUD, 77 days ago, to Mr Hogan-Howe, and he has wasted quite a lot of that time passing my “Witness Statement Reporting the Very Serious Crime of Fraud”(sent , 31st March, 2015) to the legal team at DPS for them to convert into a legal “complaint”, so they could attempt to “legally” dismiss it. Still, you really have had enough time to explain your actions to the public, and STAND DOWN. A fortnight, fifteen days from today, June 15th, 2015, is adequate time to lawfully respond to this charge of FRAUD, and to peacefully stand down. No lawful response from you by June 30th 2015, will be deemed tacit admission of culpability, and that the charge of FRAUD against you is proven.
    To anyone in public office NOT involved in this criminal cover-up: Continuing to hold gabriel and alisa is UNLAWFUL and completely without the authority and consent of all the good and honest people of this land. The public require you to safely return them to their mother ella, via the children’s grandparents if need be, without delay. The recent attempt to blackmail their grandparents into signing a document agreeing to accept Pauffley’s findings as valid, as a condition for visiting their grandchildren, cannot leave anyone in any doubt now as to the level these desperadoes will sink, and to what an absolute sham the Pauffley judgement really is.
    I hold only to that which is lawful, and do not consent to the transmutation of any living beings I have mentioned (including myself) to that of “legal person” status, or to any legal interpretation of my words whatsoever. All words and combinations of words used by me carry solely the meaning I intend them to convey, which is to tell the truth to the best of my ability in order to report the crime of fraud detailed above, and to bring about an end to the brutalisation, torture, rape and murder of innocents – as I know such things to be contrary to the laws of humanity.
    from one of the people and a conscious living being,


  3. Drifloud 15th June, 2015

  4. Introducing this ‘satanist’ into the discussion for any justification at all for his ‘ideals’ and his justifications for and against ‘Satan’s’ origins or original designation was a huge mistake, all this person did was muddy the waters. Like I tried to say earlier it is WAY too early in the game to try and delineate WHO ‘Satan’ really is and this person id one of a VERY FEW individuals, or satanists for that matter, that has taken the time to TRY and ‘understand’ who this ‘Satan’ entity is and has been throughout history, and this person could STILL be very, very wrong! And you are giving him a platform. Appalling. I’m not a ‘Christian’ and am very steeped in ‘occult’ and esoteric knowledge, and I have never seen the kind of information that justifies this Rev. Fraize’s claims. I simpl think it was a mistake to let him have so much sway on this discussion of satanism. MOST people that ARE satanists DO NOT believe the way this man does nor would want to spend the time understanding the differences between the ‘Olden Gods’ and biblical or modern interpretations of “satan”. I think in your attempt to be rational and democratic you have been taken advantage of. Satan is the ANTITHESIS of Jesus in the Bible, there is no way in Hell this entity is EVER going to get the recognition that this Rev. Fraize is trying to give him. It makes the entire argument SUPERFLUOUS.




    • I have never heard anyone worship or sacrifice to Marduk, either. The cult types are in power and all over the world. What unites them? The obedience to and worship of, yep, Satan. Not an anomaly! Again, all over the world. Can’t say that for Haverhill, Mass. USA. He is also a Mason, and they do not hesitate to lie, deceive or muddy the waters. I would never entertain such vermin. But I know someone who did ;-) A so called Christian, no less. I do so love it!



    • Forgiveness is fine, if it is one forgiving another who sinned against that one. But we have no right to forgive those who did not sin against us, but did to others. Our duty, whether from a Bible perspective or political moral perspective, is to enforce the law in effect at that time, that was broken. Satanists are far less worthy of forgiveness as they will only laugh at it. Besides, they have gone too far. Yes, abuse ruined them and that is the point. they are ruined. Just put them out of their misery. Giving in to them, compromising with them, only leads us to more evil rather than less. Why would intelligent people do that?
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      • Thanks, Michael – you are HR too, helping us with these great links! We are all HR :-) Jx



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    Answering questions about my eating habits I find unneccassary and futile. But to the person asking the question id state I haven’t eaten meat for over 20 years – since 1984. Is that good enough for you?
    Anyway, I have now left this site, as others have I know who used to support it – [one who has left stated privately “the site has spiraled into a gossip column”] – one reason being I feel the constant promotion, eg. the “radio show interview” with that character “Fraize” put on here, that is in this site’s archives – and the other open bias towards a self-confessed satanist has nothing to do with trying to get justice for this family. Period.
    Ive asked before what has all the attention to this character got to do with trying to get justice for the family but never received a straight answer.
    I do seriously believe this site owners former involvement with the occult, or call it what you want, in whichever guise in the past, has coloured/is colouring the publicizing of this character who calls himself “Rev. Fraize” – a self-confessed satanist. One only has to look back into this sites archives to see the misplaced attention to this character – he’s called “normal”, a “nice satanist”, and weve even been told he’s “harmed none” [how the heck can the author of that comment know that?], along with all the rest of it – as if to make out the characters leanings are perfectly acceptable and “everyday”. Weaker spirits might be brainwashed by this tripe.
    And if this pro-satanism happened once, it could happen again, and I do not want to be here if it does.
    I put it to everyone that it is/was satanists actions that are the reasons for this very site being here in the 1st place!
    Having left I would state that in my opinion certain supporters input to trying to get justice for this family is invaluable and I hope never ceases.”